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  "name": "Domingo de Soto, Deliberacion en la causa de los pobres (1545)",
  "summary": "A Salamanca theologian's brief to the heir to the throne against the poor laws the Castilian towns began to enforce in 1544, which licensed and confined begging. Soto concedes the whole case against able-bodied idlers, reciting the lash and banishment the kingdom's own laws impose on them, and then defends the freedom of the genuinely poor to travel and to ask: no more reason is to be demanded of a poor man than of a rich one for being outside his own land. Printed with its own reply.",
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  "questions": [
    "What did Domingo de Soto argue in the 1545 debate on poor relief?",
    "Did sixteenth-century Spain debate the right of the poor to beg?",
    "What were the Castilian poor laws of 1540 and 1544?",
    "Who defended freedom of movement for the poor in early modern Spain?"
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      "id": "c1",
      "text": "The tract was printed in 1545 over the name of Fray Domingo de Soto, professor of theology at Salamanca and prior of Santisteuan of the order of preachers, and is addressed on its opening leaf to the prince of Spain, Philip, first-born of the emperor Charles the fifth - that is, to the regent who would have to decide the question.",
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      "id": "c2",
      "text": "Soto's own prologue narrates what he is answering. A measure was ordered printed in the year forty-four at Medina del Campo among other chapters of pragmatics; on that foundation the cities began to frame further chapters - to shut out vagabonds, to provide poor strangers only for the road so that they should not stop, and that no poor person should go about the doors, other persons instead asking for the alms and distributing it - and mayordomos, deputies and constables were instituted to run it.",
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      "text": "He states the ordinances were framed with holy intention and names Zamora as one of the first cities to adopt them, adding that he and other theologians were consulted by word, raised difficulty over part of the chapters, and that he signed the rest without having seen them - a carelessness he confesses in the same prologue.",
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      "text": "The method he sets out at the head of the chapter on vagabonds is to separate two questions that the ordinances had run together - first what is lawful, which is settled by law, and then, among lawful things, which is expedient, which is settled by equity and prudence - and to separate two kinds of person, the idle who are not poor but beg under colour of poverty, and those who are genuinely poor and go outside their native places to ask through the kingdom.",
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      "id": "c5",
      "text": "Against the first kind he concedes everything and more. He argues that divine law and natural law alike forbid the able-bodied idler, and then recites the kingdom's positive law without softening it - the title of the second Partida that has such men shut out as enemigos de la republica, and the law of King Juan made at Briviesca in 1387, which allows anyone to take a vagabond who is healthy enough to work and use him for a month without wages, or else give him sixty lashes and banish him.",
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      "text": "For the genuinely poor he argues the opposite, and his fourth reason is economic rather than devotional: some lands are more barren than others and some are less charitable than others, and since men cannot be compelled to give alms, the poor would suffer want if they could not go where there is more charity. He adds that a poor man always in one place wearies the people, who tire of giving, and that one must not demand more reason of a poor man than of a rich man for being outside his own land - \"no han de pedir al pobre mas razon que al rico por que anda fuera de su tierra\".",
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      "text": "His fifth reason is hospitality, the receiving of guests, which he says was prized and kept in all the republics of the world and which he supports out of Plato and Theophrastus rather than out of scripture alone; and the frame of the whole argument is the body of which all Christians are members, where those who know are to be eyes to those who do not, those who can work are to be hands and feet, and the rich are to be the stomach that maintains the poor.",
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      "id": "c8",
      "text": "The tract is one side of a controversy, and the volume says so itself: bound after it in the same 1545 printing is the answer, \"De la orden que en algunos pueblos de Espana se ha puesto en la limosna: para remedio de los verdaderos pobres\", whose dedication is signed by Fray Juan de Medina, abbot of San Vicente de Salamanca, the Benedictine who had advised the reform Soto is attacking.",
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      "id": "c9",
      "text": "Medina's answer is not a weak one and should be read against Soto's: it holds that freedoms men have by natural right are withdrawn in times of war and pestilence for legitimate cause, that the most legitimate cause of all is the public good, and that as a member of a body ceases its office or is lost so that the whole body take no harm, so the inhabitants of a city may lose their freedoms and, if the good of the city requires it, their lives.",
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      "text": "What this object rests on is the printed volume alone. Whether Soto changed the crown's policy, how the town ordinances were enforced after 1545, and how the argument travelled to the Indies are not documented in the sheets read here and are not asserted.",
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  "winning_edge": "English-language coverage of early modern poor relief runs through Juan Luis Vives and the Flemish and English towns, and where Spain appears at all it appears as the place that failed to reform. The 1545 controversy that Castile printed - a theologian of Salamanca arguing before the heir to the throne that the poor have the same freedom of movement as the rich, bound in one volume with the abbot who answered that the public good may withdraw it - is quoted here from the sheets on both sides, with the lashes Soto endorses for the able-bodied on the record next to the freedom he defends for the poor. No reachable source states both halves from the document.",
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